just how hard IS it?
Published on February 5, 2005 By BoXXi In Windows Software

I have decided to learn Java programming. In my new job I will have the opportunity to move into web development in 6 to 12 months, so I am going to use this time to learn Java to give myself a head start.

If any of you guys and gals have any knowledge of this platform, I would appreciate any help and advice on where to start, including links, insights or anything you can think of that may help me in my quest. If it helps: I have no programming or coding experience at all, besides the small amounts of code I have written for skinning purposes, or in Litestep.  I do understand that this is not an easy language to program in, but I have time and a great determination. So, come on guys, where do I start?

Thanks in advance.


Comments
on Feb 05, 2005
BoXXi, Here'a link to a legal, downloadable version of Bruce Eckel's "Thinking in Java",of one of the more definitive books. I believe it's primarily more of a straight Java language book, rather than one devoted to the various Java-based technologies and APIs and frameworks.

http://www.mindview.net/Books/TIJ/

Eclipse is a very popular, free Java IDE (actually since it's extensible, it can be used with other languages and technologies, but Java is its primary focus)

http://www.eclipse.org
on Feb 05, 2005
Another great IDE...JCreator.
http://www.jcreator.com/
on Feb 05, 2005
Why Java, may I ask?
Since you said you have no knowledge of programming at all, I am assuming you don't know HTML, or any scripting language such as javascript and VBscript. If you want a job a web development, I strongly urge you to master these before throwing yourself into Java.
If you already know these, then disregard my post.
on Feb 05, 2005
How do i get the clock i downloaded to shoiw up on my desktop?
on Feb 05, 2005
Please some1 answer..
on Feb 05, 2005
Doggy P: instead of highjacking this thread, you should create a new post in one of the Support forums, specifically the DesktopX Support forum if the clock was a DesktopX widget. https://www.wincustomize.com/Forums.aspx?ForumID=168
on Feb 05, 2005
Boxxi,

I'm with Paxx on this one. Why learn Java is you have the opportunity to do Web Development. Java is typically the language used on the back-end in Java based web applications with JSP serving as the scripting language. If you aren't already familiar with HTML, CSS, and Javascript or VBScript I'd suggest you start there. Learning Java won't give you much of a basis for web development, but it is a nice language although steer clear of Swing programming if you can it's really annoying.. If you have any specific questions feel free to ask I was a Java developer for 3 years so I have a pretty good background in the language and it's supporting technologies.

Good Luck!!
on Feb 06, 2005

O.K. guys, first of all, thanks for the links and the advice, it really is appreciated. Now, in a couple of weeks, i am going to work for a very large bank, but in a position that has nothing to do with computers. I already know someone who works there as a Java developer, and he told me that if I began to learn java now, in about six months I could move into the IT side, and learn to be a java developer. He was taken into that area and trained from the ground up to be a java developer, and he didn't know any other languages. The bank is mainly an Internet bank, so I am assuming that java forms a large part of their backend. What I am trying to do is maximize my chances of getting into that side of things when the opportunity arises. I will have to look into the situation more closely when I start work, and if necessary, start with the other things that you guys mentioned. I do know some html, and I understand CSS, but maybe I need to brush up on those further before trying Java.

I will report back later when I know more about how they work.

Thanks for the help!!!